סערה פוליטית טלטלה את הכדורגל הספרדי, רגעים ספורים לפני שריקת הפתיחה של המשחק בין ריאל מדריד לאלצ'ה. שלושה מכוכבי ריאל, קיליאן אמבפה, ויניסיוס ג'וניור ואיברהימה קונאטה, סירבו להציג במלואה את חולצת התמיכה בעיר סאוטה, ועוררו גל זעם ברשתות החברתיות בספרד.
מבחינה ספורטיבית, ריאל מדריד ניצחה בסופו של דבר 3:2, לאחר שהשלימה מהפך דרמטי מפיגור של 0:2. השער המכריע נקבע רק בדקה ה-91, על ידי המחליף קרלוס אספי. אלצ'ה, שבה שיחק מגן נבחרת ישראל רוי רביבו 90 דקות מלאות, הייתה קרובה מאוד להפתיע ולחלץ נקודה יקרה.
אבל הסיפור המרכזי של הערב לא התרחש על הדשא. לפני המשחק חולקו לשחקני שתי הקבוצות חולצות לבנות ועליהן הכיתוב "כולנו תושבי סאוטה". מדובר במחווה שנועדה להביע סולידריות עם תושבי המובלעת הספרדית, בעקבות משבר הגירה חריף בגבול עם מרוקו שפרץ בסוף יולי.
התמונות מהמנהרה ומהעלייה לדשא חשפו תמונה שונה לגמרי. אמבפה, ויניסיוס וקונאטה התייצבו כשהחולצות מורמות עד לאזור החזה, כך שהכיתוב הוסתר במלואו ולא נראה לעין המצלמות. אמבפה וויניסיוס אף מיהרו להוריד את החולצות מיד בתום הצילום הקבוצתי, עוד לפני לחיצות הידיים המסורתיות עם השופטים ושחקני אלצ'ה. קונאטה, מצידו, המשיך ללבוש את החולצה כשהיא מקופלת ומורמת עד לסיום הטקס.
בתקשורת הספרדית דווח כי בתוך ריאל מדריד רואים בהתנהגות השלושה החלטה אישית שנבעה מ"רגישויות אישיות", שאינן תואמות במקרה הזה את העמדה הרשמית של המועדון. ריאל עצמה כן הצטרפה ליוזמה ופרסמה הודעה רשמית שלפיה שחקני שתי הקבוצות עלו לדשא עם החולצות "כאות סולידריות עם סאוטה".
הפרשה מצטרפת למחלוקת שכבר ליוותה את הקמפיין בימים האחרונים. ברצלונה החליטה מראש כמועדון שלא להשתתף במחווה במשחקיה מול אלצ'ה ולבאנטה. מנגד, השחקן המרוקאי של בטיס, עבדה אבדשלי, כן לבש את החולצה במשחק מול ויאריאל, וספג בעקבות כך גל עלבונות ואיומים ברשתות החברתיות. אבדה נאלץ להבהיר לאחר מכן: "בשום שלב החולצה שמתייחסת לתושבי סאוטה לא שימשה למטרה פוליטית או כדי להביע זלזול בעם המרוקאי. זו הייתה חולצה בעלת אופי חברתי שנועדה לתמוך באוכלוסייה, בלי קשר ללאום".
נושא סאוטה כבר עלה בריאל מדריד גם בשבוע שעבר. לפני משחק ליגת האלופות מול אינטר פרסו אוהדים ביציע הדרומי של אצטדיון הברנבאו דגלי סאוטה, והקהל מחא כפיים למחווה. יום קודם לכן פרסם המועדון הודעה רשמית שהכחישה דיווחים על איסור להכניס לאצטדיון דגלי ספרד או דגלי הערים האוטונומיות.
מעבר לסערה הפוליטית, גם ההיבט הכדורגלי של הערב סיפק דרמה. רביבו, שהצטרף לאחרונה לאלצ'ה, שיחק בהופעתו השלישית בלה ליגה ובפעם השנייה ברציפות בהרכב הפותח. המגן הישראלי נדרש להתמודד עם ארדה גולר וקיליאן אמבפה, ולפי אתר הסטטיסטיקות "סופהסקור" קיבל ציון 6.1, עם 88 אחוזי דיוק במסירות ומסירת מפתח אחת. הוא היה מעורב בשער השני שספגה קבוצתו, כשיאן דיומנדה עבר אותו במהלך שהוביל לשער של אמבפה.
בתקשורת הספרדית ההתייחסות אליו הייתה מאוזנת, כאשר צוין כי נקודת התורפה של אלצ'ה הייתה בהגנה הקבוצתית ולא ברביבו כגורם בודד. שעות ספורות לפני המשחק אף הוקדשה לו כתבה נרחבת בעיתון "מארקה", שהתייחסה למורשת אביו חיים רביבו מימיו בסלטה ויגו, וציינה כי הבן "הגיע כדי לתבוע את עמדת המגן השמאלי" באלצ'ה.
עם תום המשחק, הפרשה סביב חולצות סאוטה ממשיכה להדהד בספרד ולעורר ביקורת ציבורית כלפי אמבפה וויניסיוס, בעוד רביבו ואלצ'ה, שנותרו עם שתי נקודות בלבד מחמישה מחזורים, יצטרכו להתאושש לקראת המשחקים הבאים בליגה.
Sonnet 4.5 Reddit Discussions Discussions on Reddit that mention Claude Sonnet 4.5 Model DeepSeek V3.2 versus Claude for Agentic Coding: is it really "close"? Comment r/ClaudeAI I've read a lot in this sub about how DeepSeek V3.2 or Kimi K2 are "just as good" as Claude for agentic coding, at a fraction of the price. But every time I've tried to use a cheaper alternative for agentic tasks (in Claude Code or Codex), the difference in实际执行力 is night and day. Sonnet 4.5 just follows instructions and finishes the job. The others get lost in multi-step tasks or need way more hand-holding. Anyone else finding the same thing, or am I doing something wrong with prompting the cheaper models? Posted in October 2025145 upvotes482 comments Read discussion on Reddit Chinese models (GLM, DeepSeek, Kimi, MiniMax) are shockingly good now, and I don't think people who haven't tried them understand how close the gap really is Comment r/LocalLLaMA I spent the last two weeks running GLM-4.6, DeepSeek-V3.2 and Kimi K2 side by side against Sonnet 4.5 on actual client work, not just synthetic benchmarks that everyone posts screenshots of. For agentic coding tasks and long context handling, GLM-4.6 is basically indistinguishable from Sonnet 4.5 in my testing, and Kimi K2 architecture reasoning is genuinely impressive too. The pricing gap is not even funny anymore, like we are talking 1/20th the cost for something that benchmarks and feels the same in daily driver use. I get that a lot of people here are invested in the closed model ecosystem for good reasons (support, compliance, whatever your org needs), but purely on capability, I think the narrative that Chinese open weight models are 'catching up' is outdated. They're not catching up. For a lot of practical workloads they're already there. Posted in October 2025203 upvotes187 comments Read discussion on Reddit Sonnet 4.5 keeps rewriting entire files instead of making targeted edits, burning through my tokens Comment r/ClaudeAI Anyone else noticing this? I ask Claude Code to fix one function or add a small feature, and instead of a surgical diff it just regenerates the whole file from scratch. On a 400-line file that's a massive waste of context and money compared to Sonnet 4's behavior. Tried being explicit in the prompt ('only edit the relevant lines') and it works sometimes but not consistently. Feels like a regression for anything beyond small scripts. Posted in October 2025212 upvotes167 comments Read discussion on Reddit Anthropic needs to be transparent about quantization/distillation on Sonnet 4.5 for API users, this is getting ridiculous Comment r/ClaudeAI Been using Sonnet 4.5 via API for a coding project since launch week and the quality has noticeably degraded over the past month. Same prompts that used to one-shot working code now need 3-4 iterations. I know Anthropic doesn't publicly confirm this stuff but the pattern is too consistent to be placebo, this happened with Sonnet 3.5 and 3.7 too if you go back and check old threads here. If they're quietly serving a distilled or quantized version to manage capacity they should just say so instead of letting people burn API credits debugging their own prompts when it's actually the model. Posted in October 2025328 upvotes203 comments Read discussion on Reddit Sonnet 4.5's 'context awareness' where it knows how much conversation length it has left is actually messing with long sessions Comment r/ClaudeAI Anthropic mentioned Sonnet 4.5 has some kind of internal awareness of context window usage, and I'm noticing it change behavior as a session gets long, like it starts being more terse or tries to wrap things up unprompted. Anyone else run into this? It's interesting from a technical standpoint but kind of annoying when I actually want it to keep going deep on a problem instead of subtly trying to shorten things because it thinks we're running low. Posted in October 202589 upvotes34 comments Read discussion on Reddit Am I the only one who prefers Sonnet 4.5's personality over GPT-5's for actual pair programming? Comment r/ClaudeAI Been going back and forth between GPT-5 and Sonnet 4.5 for a big refactor this week and it's not even about raw capability at this point, it's the interaction style. Sonnet pushes back when I suggest something dumb and explains why, GPT-5 mostly just agrees and executes even when I'm clearly wrong. Had it catch a race condition in my approach yesterday that I would've shipped otherwise. Curious if this is a consistent pattern others are seeing or if I just got lucky with prompting. Posted in October 2025167 upvotes92 comments Read discussion on Reddit Claude Code (Sonnet 4.5) burned $40 in API credits refactoring a file that GPT-5-Codex did correctly on the first try Comment r/ChatGPTCoding Not trying to start a war here, just sharing actual numbers from my billing dashboard. Same repo, same task (extract a service layer from a monolithic controller, ~800 lines), gave both tools the same prompt. Codex CLI nailed it in one pass, clean diff, tests passed. Claude Code took four attempts, kept second-guessing its own edits, reverted twice, and by the time it converged on something reasonable I'd burned through $40 in Sonnet 4.5 tokens. I know Claude gets a lot of love for coding but this particular class of task (large mechanical refactor) seems to be where Codex pulls ahead. Anyone else seeing task-dependent results like this rather than one model being universally better? Posted in October 202589 upvotes47 comments Read discussion on Reddit Claude Sonnet 4.5 in Cursor keeps ignoring my .cursorrules file, anyone found a workaround? Comment r/cursor Since switching to Sonnet 4.5 my custom rules file gets straight up ignored maybe 1 in 3 requests. Things like enforcing a specific error handling pattern or not using a certain deprecated library method. Worked fine with Sonnet 3.7. Tried moving the rules to the top of the file, made them more terse, even tried restating them in the actual chat prompt as a backup and it still slips sometimes. Not sure if this is a Cursor implementation issue with how it feeds context to the newer model or a Sonnet 4.5 thing specifically since I've seen similar complaints in the Claude Code repo issues too. Posted in October 202576 upvotes53 comments Read discussion on Reddit Sonnet 4.5 context window handling is genuinely different from 4.0, here's what I've measured Comment r/ClaudeAI Ran a bunch of tests feeding progressively larger codebases into both models through the API to see where comprehension started degrading. Sonnet 4.0 would start losing track of earlier defined functions somewhere around 60-70k tokens in my tests, start hallucinating function signatures that were close but not exact. 4.5 held up noticeably longer, I didn't see the same degradation until much later in the window. Not a formal benchmark, just my own repeated testing on real project files, but the difference was consistent enough across multiple runs that I don't think it's noise. Curious if anyone has done more rigorous testing on this. Posted in October 202594 upvotes28 comments Read discussion on Reddit Company forced our team from Claude to Copilot Enterprise, thought I'd share how it's actually going after a full sprint Comment r/ClaudeAI Management wanted 'one AI vendor' for procurement simplicity so we lost our Claude access mid project. Copilot with GPT-4.1/GPT-5 backend is not bad exactly, it's just noticeably weaker at understanding architectural intent across files, it's more of a fancy autocomplete than a pair programmer. What I miss most from Sonnet 4.5 is how it would question my architecture choices unprompted, like flag a potential race condition in my approach before I even asked it to review anything. Copilot mostly just completes what you're already typing rather than pushing back on the actual design. Not trying to start a war just wanted to document the actual experience since procurement decisions rarely account for this stuff. Posted in October 2025124 upvotes67 comments Read discussion on Reddit Codex is consistently one-shotting tasks that Claude Code needs 3-4 rounds of back and forth to get right Comment r/ChatGPTCoding Been running the same set of backend tasks through both tools this week, adding endpoints, fixing race conditions, that kind of thing. Codex with GPT-5 high reasoning has been landing working solutions on the first try way more often. Claude Code with Sonnet 4.5 is still good but I'm finding myself needing to correct its approach or clarify requirements multiple times before it converges on something that actually works. Not saying Claude is bad, it's still my daily driver for a lot of stuff, but for pure 'give me correct code fast' it feels like Codex has pulled ahead recently. Anyone else seeing this pattern or is my sample size just too small to mean anything? Posted in October 2025156 upvotes89 comments Read discussion on Reddit Claude Code silently truncates tool outputs in long agentic loops without telling you, cost me hours debugging a phantom bug Comment r/ClaudeAI Had Claude Code running an autonomous refactor loop and it kept 'fixing' a test that was already passing while ignoring the actual failure two files over. Turns out the tool output from an earlier grep got silently truncated in context and Sonnet 4.5 was working off incomplete information, but the response gave zero indication that anything was cut off. No warning, no truncation marker, nothing. I only found it by manually running the same command myself and comparing output lengths side by side. This seems like a pretty basic thing to flag to the user when it happens, feels like an easy fix on Anthropic's end. Posted in October 2025203 upvotes61 comments Read discussion on Reddit Is anyone else finding Gemini 3 Pro is actually better than Sonnet 4.5 for backend architecture decisions? Comment r/ClaudeAI I've been all in on Claude for the past year, canceled my ChatGPT and Gemini subs because Sonnet was just better for my day to day coding. But I've been testing Gemini 3 Pro this week for a database schema redesign project and it caught two normalization issues that Sonnet 4.5 completely missed on the same prompt. Ran it three times to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Not trying to start a war here, genuinely asking if others are seeing similar results or if this is just my specific use case. Posted in November 202589 upvotes76 comments Read discussion on Reddit Gemini 3 Pro solved a threading bug in my Android Studio project that Claude Sonnet 4.5 couldn't fix after 5 attempts Comment r/ClaudeAI Not trying to start a console war here, just documenting my actual experience this week. Had a nasty race condition in a Kotlin coroutines implementation, gave Claude the full stack trace and relevant files, it kept suggesting fixes that addressed symptoms not the root cause. Switched to Gemini 3 Pro with the same context and it correctly identified a scope leak on the second try. Still prefer Claude's coding style overall but this was a wake up call that it's not universally ahead anymore. Posted in November 2025127 upvotes84 comments Read discussion on Reddit Claude Code's new checkpoint/rewind feature in 2.0 doesn't actually save you from context bloat like I expected Comment r/ClaudeAI Was excited about the rewind feature since I thought it'd let me undo bad agent decisions without nuking my whole context window, kind of like a git reset for conversations. In practice, when Sonnet 4.5 goes down a wrong path across multiple tool calls, the checkpoints only revert the code changes, the actual context/conversation history still carries all the noise from the failed approach. So you 'rewind' the files but the model's understanding is still polluted by its own bad reasoning from before. End up needing to start a fresh session anyway for anything complex, which somewhat defeats the point for me. Anyone found a workflow that actually leverages this well or is it more useful for simpler edit mistakes than architectural dead ends? Posted in November 202594 upvotes37 comments Read discussion on Reddit Sonnet 4.5's honesty about uncertainty is actually hurting it in benchmarks compared to models that just confidently guess Comment r/ClaudeAI Been comparing outputs across several models on ambiguous technical questions and noticed something interesting. When Sonnet 4.5 doesn't have enough context to be sure about something, it says so, and hedges its answer. Other models plow ahead with confident-sounding wrong answers. In casual side by side comparisons the confident wrong answer often 'reads' better even when it's wrong, because certainty is persuasive on its own. This might partly explain why Sonnet sometimes loses in blind preference tests despite arguably being more trustworthy day to day. Posted in November 202573 upvotes41 comments Read discussion on Reddit Claude Code v2 auto-compact is silently dropping critical context from earlier in long sessions and it's costing people real debugging time Comment r/ClaudeAI Ran a six hour refactoring session yesterday and noticed Sonnet 4.5 completely forgot a database schema constraint we established at the start after auto-compact kicked in around message 80 or so. It confidently suggested a migration that would have violated the exact constraint we discussed earlier. No warning banner, no indication it had summarized anything, just quietly lost the thread. Had to manually re-paste the schema again to get it back on track. Anyone else seeing this since the v2 update? Feels like the summarization step is way too aggressive with what it decides to keep versus toss, and there's no visibility into what actually gets cut. Posted in November 202591 upvotes33 comments Read discussion on Reddit Found the actual reason Sonnet 4.5 keeps stopping short in Claude Code, it's not laziness, it's the interleaved thinking budget getting hit mid task Comment r/ClaudeAI Spent way too many hours on this since last week but tracked it down. When you've got extended thinking on with tool use, each tool call in the loop eats into the same thinking token allowance instead of getting a clean budget per step. So on longer multi-file refactors the model runs out of 'headroom' 3-4 tool calls before actually being done, and Claude Code just calls it there and prints a truncated summary instead of erroring or notifying you. Watched the raw stream through the API directly to confirm it, the finish reason on those calls literally reflects the token cap being hit rather than the model deciding it's finished. Workaround for now is breaking tasks into smaller chunks manually rather than letting it run a huge task in one shot. Wanted to post here in case others were fighting this same 'why does it randomly quit' issue. Posted in November 202589 upvotes24 comments Read discussion on Reddit Vertex AI is running an older Sonnet 4.5 checkpoint than the direct Anthropic API and it's causing real inconsistencies for our team Comment r/ClaudeAI We've got part of our team on the direct API and part on Vertex for procurement reasons, and the outputs for identical prompts have been diverging for weeks, not subtly either. After way too much back and forth with support we confirmed Vertex is serving a different checkpoint than the direct API despite both being labeled the same model name and version string. No changelog, no version bump visible to us, nothing in the docs flagging it. Every provider seems to just push updates whenever without any real transparency, and it's especially rough when you're trying to keep behavior consistent across a team split between platforms for compliance reasons. Anyone else dealt with this and found a way to actually pin a specific checkpoint? Posted in November 202573 upvotes19 comments Read discussion on Reddit Sonnet 4.5's extended thinking mode produces measurably worse code on simple tasks than just turning thinking off entirely Comment r/ClaudeAI Ran about 40 trials on straightforward CRUD endpoint generation, half with extended thinking enabled half without, everything else identical. The non-thinking runs had a notably higher first try compile rate. Went through the thinking traces on the failures and it's overthinking edge cases that don't apply to the actual ask, then second guessing a correct initial approach into a more complicated wrong one. Basically thrashing on problems that don't need the extra reasoning budget at all. Great for genuinely hard problems obviously but I've started explicitly disabling it for anything I already know is simple boilerplate. Posted in November 202568 upvotes22 comments Read discussion on Reddit Reminder that Claude Sonnet 4.5's 'context awareness' isn't just knowing token count, it changes actual behavior mid conversation Comment r/ClaudeAI Anthropic mentioned this in their release notes and I actually verified it in practice. Sonnet 4.5 seems to know roughly where it is in the context window and shifts strategy accordingly, being noticeably more concise and prioritizing wrap up when it senses it's running low on room. Tested this by padding a conversation to different lengths before asking the same complex question. Near the start of a fresh context it gives thorough multi paragraph answers with lots of exploration, deep in a long context it gives tighter, more decisive answers like it knows it doesn't have room to meander. Kind of impressive, kind of unsettling depending on how you look at it honestly. Posted in November 2025112 upvotes38 comments Read discussion on Reddit Discovered Sonnet 4.5's context awareness actively changes its coding style as the conversation fills up, not just response length Been debugging why my later refactors in a long session felt different in style from earlier ones. Turns out it's not random. Confirmed with Anthropic's own documentation on this: Sonnet 4.5 tracks roughly how much context window is remaining and adjusts behavior. Early in a session it writes more exploratory code with extra comments and alternative approaches offered. Past a certain point in the same session it gets noticeably more direct, fewer options presented, straight to what it thinks is the best answer. Makes sense as a design choice for efficiency but caught me off guard when I couldn't figure out why the 'personality' of the coding assistance felt like it drifted over a long pair programming session. 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